what we should do is look inside and say if we concentrate on small government, low taxes and national security, we'll do well. and in that, jon huntsman is right. >> and not social issues? >> i think we should stay away from social issues and leave those to the states. because the true conservative, you don't want the federal government passing any laws or having any regulations as far as abortion goes, guy rights there is nothing in the constitutional that leaves that to the federal government. those are state issues. and if the state of georgia, for example, wants to pass a law that bans guy marriage, should it be allowed to do so. >> that's a conversation for another two or three hours here on msnbc. but i want to bring you in erich mcpike and mike murphy. he made an argument similar to jon huntsman boldly titled can this party be saved. this is what murphy said in part. quote, the republican challenge is not about better voter turnout software. it's about policy. we repel latinos, younger voters and our once solid connection to the middle class on kitchen-table economic issues. th